NFL · power ratings · 2004 week 8
What we knew after week 8
Two rating systems over the same games — a ridge-regularized SRS that solves for the schedule, and a margin-aware Elo that walks it forward one week at a time. Every number on this page uses only the games played by this week: no later result touches it, which is what makes an old week worth reading at all.
- Teams rated
- 32
- through 2004-11-01
- Games absorbed
- 116
- season to date · 14 this week
- Home field
- 2.00
- points, the model's estimate this week
Team ratings
| # | Team | Conf | Rec | SRS | SOS | Win% | Elo | Δ Elo |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Philadelphia EaglesPHI | NFC | 7-0 | 7.24 | 0.01 | 70% | 1675 | +9.4 |
| 2 | New England PatriotsNE | AFC | 6-1 | 5.55 | 0.50 | 66% | 1663 | -35.5 |
| 3 | Indianapolis ColtsIND | AFC | 4-3 | 4.78 | 0.40 | 64% | 1596 | -28.1 |
| 4 | Baltimore RavensBAL | AFC | 4-3 | 3.15 | 0.27 | 59% | 1553 | -9.4 |
| 5 | New York JetsNYJ | AFC | 6-1 | 2.63 | -0.76 | 58% | 1579 | +18.3 |
| 6 | Minnesota VikingsMIN | NFC | 5-2 | 2.01 | -0.05 | 56% | 1535 | -48.4 |
| 7 | Pittsburgh SteelersPIT | AFC | 6-1 | 1.86 | -0.82 | 55% | 1582 | +35.5 |
| 8 | Green Bay PackersGB | NFC | 4-4 | 1.73 | -0.72 | 55% | 1554 | +22.7 |
| 9 | Kansas City ChiefsKC | AFC | 3-4 | 1.73 | 0.94 | 55% | 1541 | +28.1 |
| 10 | Denver BroncosDEN | AFC | 5-3 | 1.55 | -0.99 | 54% | 1527 | -38.2 |
| 11 | San Diego ChargersSD | AFC | 5-3 | 1.51 | -0.42 | 54% | 1528 | +15.9 |
| 12 | Seattle SeahawksSEA | NFC | 4-3 | 1.40 | -1.11 | 54% | 1526 | +12.9 |
| 13 | New York GiantsNYG | NFC | 5-2 | 1.24 | 0.33 | 54% | 1525 | +48.4 |
| 14 | Atlanta FalconsATL | NFC | 6-2 | 0.76 | -0.81 | 52% | 1531 | +38.2 |
| 15 | Tennessee TitansTEN | AFC | 3-5 | 0.08 | 0.33 | 50% | 1508 | +13.5 |
| 16 | St. Louis RamsSTL | NFC | 4-3 | -0.33 | -1.55 | 49% | 1528 | 0.0 |
| 17 | Tampa Bay BuccaneersTB | NFC | 2-5 | -0.60 | -1.47 | 48% | 1476 | 0.0 |
| 18 | Cleveland BrownsCLE | AFC | 3-4 | -0.77 | 0.49 | 48% | 1449 | 0.0 |
| 19 | Jacksonville JaguarsJAX | AFC | 5-3 | -0.78 | 1.56 | 48% | 1482 | -26.9 |
| 20 | Houston TexansHOU | AFC | 4-3 | -0.78 | -0.25 | 48% | 1478 | +26.9 |
| 21 | Buffalo BillsBUF | AFC | 2-5 | -1.16 | -0.02 | 47% | 1458 | +24.9 |
| 22 | Detroit LionsDET | NFC | 4-3 | -1.59 | 0.74 | 45% | 1457 | -22.9 |
| 23 | Chicago BearsCHI | NFC | 2-5 | -1.92 | 0.32 | 44% | 1441 | +20.0 |
| 24 | Miami DolphinsMIA | AFC | 1-7 | -2.06 | 0.94 | 44% | 1450 | -18.3 |
| 25 | Carolina PanthersCAR | NFC | 1-6 | -2.07 | 2.27 | 44% | 1451 | -12.9 |
| 26 | New Orleans SaintsNO | NFC | 3-4 | -3.11 | -1.35 | 41% | 1450 | 0.0 |
| 27 | Dallas CowboysDAL | NFC | 3-4 | -3.11 | 0.18 | 41% | 1456 | +22.9 |
| 28 | Washington RedskinsWAS | NFC | 2-5 | -3.21 | -0.04 | 41% | 1399 | -22.7 |
| 29 | San Francisco 49ersSF | NFC | 1-6 | -3.32 | -0.64 | 40% | 1410 | -20.0 |
| 30 | Cincinnati BengalsCIN | AFC | 2-5 | -3.76 | 0.92 | 39% | 1427 | -13.5 |
| 31 | Arizona CardinalsARI | NFC | 2-5 | -3.94 | -0.03 | 39% | 1397 | -24.9 |
| 32 | Oakland RaidersOAK | AFC | 2-6 | -4.71 | 0.51 | 37% | 1370 | -15.9 |
Ranks are competition ranks — tied teams share a rank and the next rank skips. SRS is points per game against an average schedule; 0.0 is exactly average. Win% is the expected win rate against an average opponent on a neutral field.
Conference strength
| Conference | Teams | Avg SRS | Best team |
|---|---|---|---|
| AFC | 16 | 0.55 | New England Patriots5.55 |
| NFC | 16 | -0.55 | Philadelphia Eagles7.24 |
Week 8 movers
Risers
- New York Giants+48.41525
- Atlanta Falcons+38.21531
- Pittsburgh Steelers+35.51582
- Kansas City Chiefs+28.11541
- Houston Texans+26.91478
Fallers
- Minnesota Vikings-48.41535
- Denver Broncos-38.21527
- New England Patriots-35.51663
- Indianapolis Colts-28.11596
- Jacksonville Jaguars-26.91482
Methodology
SRS is a ridge-regularized simultaneous solve: every team’s rating is its average scoring margin adjusted for the ratings of everyone it played, with margins capped so a single blowout cannot dominate a season. Elo walks the schedule forward one game at a time from a fixed 1999 epoch. Between seasons it keeps 55% of each team’s distance from average and regresses the rest back toward the middle — last season is evidence, not a starting point. They are independent systems over the same games, published side by side because they disagree in informative ways.
Every board is cut through its own week — it absorbs the games played by that week and nothing later. That is what makes an old week worth reading: it is what was knowable at the time, not a retrospective re-rating. The hindsight companion shows how far these ratings sat from what the finished season says was true.
These do not beat the market. On the held-out 2018-2025 seasons — 2,227 games the constants were never tuned on — Elo predicts game margin at 10.236 MAE and SRS at 10.295 (over its 2,099 games; SRS produces nothing in week 1), against 9.829 for the closing line. Read them as a description of what teams have done, not as a price.
Two families of column in the underlying artifact are deliberately not published here: a normalized srs_z, which divides by the season’s final spread and so would let a week-5 z-score know how the season ended, and the per-season era descriptives, which are season-final by construction. Neither can honestly appear on a board labelled “after week 8.”
Fitted constants
- elo_carry
- 0.55
- elo_epoch_season
- 1999
- elo_hfa
- 60
- elo_k
- 20
- elo_points_per_elo
- 0.04
- margin_cap
- 17
- min_games_to_rank
- 3
- prior_weight
- 2
- ridge
- 4
- srs_carry
- 0.8
Sources: nfl_schedules, nfl_teams · built 2026-07-30 · seasons 1999–2025 · a team is rated after 3 games