NFL · power ratings · 2004 week 8

What we knew after week 8

Two rating systems over the same games — a ridge-regularized SRS that solves for the schedule, and a margin-aware Elo that walks it forward one week at a time. Every number on this page uses only the games played by this week: no later result touches it, which is what makes an old week worth reading at all.

Teams rated
32
through 2004-11-01
Games absorbed
116
season to date · 14 this week
Home field
2.00
points, the model's estimate this week

Team ratings

NFL power ratings after week 8 of 2004 — SRS, strength of schedule and Elo for every rated team.
#TeamConfRecSRSSOSWin%EloΔ Elo
1Philadelphia EaglesPHINFC7-07.240.0170%1675+9.4
2New England PatriotsNEAFC6-15.550.5066%1663-35.5
3Indianapolis ColtsINDAFC4-34.780.4064%1596-28.1
4Baltimore RavensBALAFC4-33.150.2759%1553-9.4
5New York JetsNYJAFC6-12.63-0.7658%1579+18.3
6Minnesota VikingsMINNFC5-22.01-0.0556%1535-48.4
7Pittsburgh SteelersPITAFC6-11.86-0.8255%1582+35.5
8Green Bay PackersGBNFC4-41.73-0.7255%1554+22.7
9Kansas City ChiefsKCAFC3-41.730.9455%1541+28.1
10Denver BroncosDENAFC5-31.55-0.9954%1527-38.2
11San Diego ChargersSDAFC5-31.51-0.4254%1528+15.9
12Seattle SeahawksSEANFC4-31.40-1.1154%1526+12.9
13New York GiantsNYGNFC5-21.240.3354%1525+48.4
14Atlanta FalconsATLNFC6-20.76-0.8152%1531+38.2
15Tennessee TitansTENAFC3-50.080.3350%1508+13.5
16St. Louis RamsSTLNFC4-3-0.33-1.5549%15280.0
17Tampa Bay BuccaneersTBNFC2-5-0.60-1.4748%14760.0
18Cleveland BrownsCLEAFC3-4-0.770.4948%14490.0
19Jacksonville JaguarsJAXAFC5-3-0.781.5648%1482-26.9
20Houston TexansHOUAFC4-3-0.78-0.2548%1478+26.9
21Buffalo BillsBUFAFC2-5-1.16-0.0247%1458+24.9
22Detroit LionsDETNFC4-3-1.590.7445%1457-22.9
23Chicago BearsCHINFC2-5-1.920.3244%1441+20.0
24Miami DolphinsMIAAFC1-7-2.060.9444%1450-18.3
25Carolina PanthersCARNFC1-6-2.072.2744%1451-12.9
26New Orleans SaintsNONFC3-4-3.11-1.3541%14500.0
27Dallas CowboysDALNFC3-4-3.110.1841%1456+22.9
28Washington RedskinsWASNFC2-5-3.21-0.0441%1399-22.7
29San Francisco 49ersSFNFC1-6-3.32-0.6440%1410-20.0
30Cincinnati BengalsCINAFC2-5-3.760.9239%1427-13.5
31Arizona CardinalsARINFC2-5-3.94-0.0339%1397-24.9
32Oakland RaidersOAKAFC2-6-4.710.5137%1370-15.9

Ranks are competition ranks — tied teams share a rank and the next rank skips. SRS is points per game against an average schedule; 0.0 is exactly average. Win% is the expected win rate against an average opponent on a neutral field.

Conference strength

Mean SRS by conference after week 8 of 2004.
ConferenceTeamsAvg SRSBest team
AFC160.55New England Patriots5.55
NFC16-0.55Philadelphia Eagles7.24

Week 8 movers

Risers

  • New York Giants+48.41525
  • Atlanta Falcons+38.21531
  • Pittsburgh Steelers+35.51582
  • Kansas City Chiefs+28.11541
  • Houston Texans+26.91478

Fallers

  • Minnesota Vikings-48.41535
  • Denver Broncos-38.21527
  • New England Patriots-35.51663
  • Indianapolis Colts-28.11596
  • Jacksonville Jaguars-26.91482

Methodology

SRS is a ridge-regularized simultaneous solve: every team’s rating is its average scoring margin adjusted for the ratings of everyone it played, with margins capped so a single blowout cannot dominate a season. Elo walks the schedule forward one game at a time from a fixed 1999 epoch. Between seasons it keeps 55% of each team’s distance from average and regresses the rest back toward the middle — last season is evidence, not a starting point. They are independent systems over the same games, published side by side because they disagree in informative ways.

Every board is cut through its own week — it absorbs the games played by that week and nothing later. That is what makes an old week worth reading: it is what was knowable at the time, not a retrospective re-rating. The hindsight companion shows how far these ratings sat from what the finished season says was true.

These do not beat the market. On the held-out 2018-2025 seasons — 2,227 games the constants were never tuned on — Elo predicts game margin at 10.236 MAE and SRS at 10.295 (over its 2,099 games; SRS produces nothing in week 1), against 9.829 for the closing line. Read them as a description of what teams have done, not as a price.

Two families of column in the underlying artifact are deliberately not published here: a normalized srs_z, which divides by the season’s final spread and so would let a week-5 z-score know how the season ended, and the per-season era descriptives, which are season-final by construction. Neither can honestly appear on a board labelled “after week 8.”

Fitted constants

elo_carry
0.55
elo_epoch_season
1999
elo_hfa
60
elo_k
20
elo_points_per_elo
0.04
margin_cap
17
min_games_to_rank
3
prior_weight
2
ridge
4
srs_carry
0.8

Sources: nfl_schedules, nfl_teams · built 2026-07-30 · seasons 1999–2025 · a team is rated after 3 games